Thursday, June 30, 2016

Re: [NEW] The Bitcoin Block, full block reward from BTCC Mint

Quote from: BTCC_Official on June 30, 2016, 05:53:06 PM

From our collection of the Bitcoin Blocks mined so far, we have an extra large one:

Block #: 418,402
Address: 16AEBbzXfBuZb6atJu5coDMxtqGR8ieCoK
Bitcoins: 26


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Re: will the bitcoin reach $1 000 000 one day...?

Quote from: Ethey on Today at 03:21:53 AM

This could definatly happen but maybe this is along time ;()

I think that it is possible for bitcoin to reach $ 10,000 and maybe even $ 100,000 in the next 5-10 years…
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Re: will the bitcoin reach $1 000 000 one day...?

Re: [NEW] The Bitcoin Block, full block reward from BTCC Mint

Quote from: wheelz1200 on Today at 03:54:08 AM

Im in, lets do an auction and see where this goes.  I agree this is definately a nice piece.  Lets see what the bct market think its worth.

so that's 4 people…
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Re: Need $50 Paypal will pay $50 in bitcoin

Quote from: jt byte on Today at 02:23:14 AM

If you can sent $ 65 bitcoin than you got it.
Why will anyone for 1:1 ratio  Huh
With that raising of btc is not going to happen.
Will complete right this minute for you a…

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Re: Need $50 Paypal will pay $50 in bitcoin

Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

Quote from: MinermanNC on Today at 01:33:09 AM

I think we are going to steadily inch to the halving,,, 800+

A relentless grind higher from here to 800+ would be soul-destroying for any shorts left.
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Re: Why would customers use Bitcoins?

Quote from: lumeire on June 28, 2016, 02:35:33 PM


Quote from: chineseprancing on June 26, 2016, 05:18:40 AM

Customer should use bitcoin because bitcoin has a small transaction fee not like…


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Re: Why would customers use Bitcoins?

Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos?

Well, you could.  But, you could also sponsor a professional player, stake a player, or invest in a team.  There are several similar options….Before I invested, if I were you, I would a little more research than just trolling for answers on a forum t…
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Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos?

Re: How to save money.

Just put them in a wallet and let your friend to change you password and tell him to give it to you after one year. Continue to save bitcoin and after one year you will have so much and with out spending anything.
Or just invest them in one year progra…
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Re: How to save money.

Re: What I should do , if gambling in my country illegal?

In bitcoin world you are anonyme so rules of your county you don t need to follow them if you want to start gambling you are free to do it.
Who will know about it if they can t know your name just try you luck anyway is always a low chance to get rich…
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Re: What I should do , if gambling in my country illegal?

Re: SCAM Alert!!!

So how to distinguish is a site is a HYIP or not , I read daily here and I have seen that Hashocean has done a decent amount of damage to many persons here. Where to invest bitcoin when I will have some ?
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Re: SCAM Alert!!!

Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities

The plot thickens. Dollars are also used for illegal activities!  Shocked


Guess it's time to use holy water as a currency.  Huh
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Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities

Re: Have $20 worth of bitcoin, how to earn more with it?

Quote from: SinsOfWrath on June 23, 2016, 04:01:46 PM

I did the faucets,
doing the service with my talent / skill.
doing the surveys.
and i got about $ 20 worth of bitcoin.

how can i start to gain more bitcoin with it?
sh…


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Re: Have $20 worth of bitcoin, how to earn more with it?

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Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular?

Quote from: PinkLlama on May 03, 2016, 09:37:56 AM

Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $ 0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?

No to be honest the Bitcoin would ne…
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Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular?

Re: [ANN] Unbreakablecoin (UNB) | SHA256 - Over 3x Bigger then Bitcoin | No Premine

Quote from: crackfoo on Today at 12:58:53 PM

Ok thanks, yeah, I just banged off a couple more blocks. within a min of each other.

What, within a minute of each other? 


Dude, you trying to inflate me, into …
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Re: [ANN] Unbreakablecoin (UNB) | SHA256 - Over 3x Bigger then Bitcoin | No Premine

Re: [ANN] Unbreakablecoin (UNB) | SHA256 - Over 3x Bigger then Bitcoin | No Premine

I'd also like to point out to all those people that claim the difficulty was to high in the beginning, premine, ra ra ra, that if the starting speed is 333mhs block erupter, then the difficulty will stay low for longer, but if the starting speed is 1TH…
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Re: Do bitcoin casinos have that power to make changes in the price of bitcoin ??

bitcoin related casinos are just in the market to make as many coins as possible. the price is quite irrelevant in that aspect. of course they want the price to be at high levels like everyone else, but they have no power/control over the price.
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Re: Do bitcoin casinos have that power to make changes in the price of bitcoin ??

Re: Total bitcoin left to mine 5,286,550

Well you could also make changes to the protocol to supply more coins, but that is highly unlikely because it's the core principle behind this technology, and would only be considered as a last resort. I am not even of the opinion that it would ever re…
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Re: Total bitcoin left to mine 5,286,550

Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin?

Quote from: Altcoinmoney on June 28, 2016, 08:29:28 AM

Off course will i quit my day job to go full into the bitcoin because if you are doing it the right way you will make allot of money with the bitcoin
but it is not t…

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Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin?

Wednesday, June 29, 2016

Re: Bitcoin price will reach $4000 after halving ?

Quote from: stromma44 on June 28, 2016, 05:06:43 PM


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Re: Bitcoin price will reach $4000 after halving ?

Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos?

Quote from: OshiTravin on Today at 02:45:53 AM


Hmm, weather-related betting might be interesting. We'll look into it – thanks! Smiley



Yes that would be amazing mate, I just gave you a business plan, i`m sure m…
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Re: What do you want to see in Bitcoin casinos?

Re: Do you use multiple Bitcoin Wallets to store your Bitcoins?

I got 3 different wallets I use. 2 on the computer and one on the phone and all hold a few btc all the time. I put most of my btc on cold paper wallets though.
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Re: Do you use multiple Bitcoin Wallets to store your Bitcoins?

Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos?

Quote from: plost24 on Today at 01:13:16 AM

Investing in casino is a type of gambling but with higher chance to win as all said house always win and by investing you get will be in house side so you will always win…

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Re: Should I invest in bitcoin casinos?

Re: People hate Bitcoins?

People had been influenced by the governments that are against the bitcoin. I had talked about bitcoin with my wife and my friend, they saw some people going jail, my friend is lawyer and they both worried with me because I earn bitcoin and I can go ja…
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Re: People hate Bitcoins?

Re: Newbie Anyone can teach me how to earn?

i think you should visit you tube. there you can find the answer of all questions that arise in your mind about bitcon. although i can also teach you about bitcoin but it will be time consumer ans will required much more time, therefore i suggest you t…
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Re: Newbie Anyone can teach me how to earn?

Re: People hate Bitcoins?

Who in their right mind could hate bitcoin?  I imagine that the only people who really hate bitcoin are those groups who are in control of the central banking authorities.  There is no reason why the general public should hate such an empowering…
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Re: People hate Bitcoins?

Re: Will genesis mining be profitable after halving?

Quote from: xht on Today at 08:44:03 PM


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I suggest you to stay away From Bitcoin mining sites, because the amount of Mining Bitco…


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Re: Will genesis mining be profitable after halving?

Re: Revue de presse bitcoin en français

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Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin?

Quote from: praprata on Today at 09:31:57 AM

I would only quit my job if I would make millions with Bitcoin but that is not the case so I am not going to do it. You cannot trust Bitcoin completely because anything …

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Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin?

Re: Bitcoin to be international currency

Quote from: HarryKPeters on Today at 10:20:55 AM

Some day it may be one of the global currency leaders. But that is if larger institutions will use it.  There is more ot it then users alone, our former enemy the ba…

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Re: Bitcoin to be international currency

Re: [ANN] Unbreakablecoin (UNB) | SHA256 - Over 3x Bigger then Bitcoin | No Premine

So you're saying the chain looks forked for the past few days?


Mr. Blasko, I do believe this is in your core competency!  I'll fix it next time.  Smiley


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Re: [ANN] Unbreakablecoin (UNB) | SHA256 - Over 3x Bigger then Bitcoin | No Premine

Re: COINPRIME DOUBLE YOUR BITCOIN IN 2 DAYS!!TRIPLE IN 4 DAYS!!

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Re: Bitcoin to be international currency

Quote from: HarryKPeters on Today at 10:20:55 AM

Some day it may be one of the global currency leaders. But that is if larger institutions will use it.  There is more ot it then users alone, our former enemy the ba…

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Re: Bitcoin to be international currency

Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling?

I bet on sports with bitcoins i didnt bet for fiat money so bitcoin brought me to gambling,with bitcoin is so easy and no restrictions no documments verification,i am curious how many chinise gamble with btcoins
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Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling?

Re: The future of Bitcoin

Quote from: randy8777 on Today at 11:42:25 AM

it will be great if we can pay directly with bitcoin in every store anywhere in the world, but we need to have a lot patience before this is going happen. if you can't w…

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Re: The future of Bitcoin

Re: What Bitcoin price is too high?

I think depends on who is buying Cheesy Like for example  for an ordinary citizen, 1k usd per bitcoin is too much but for wealthy people this is just a peace of cake.  Even when doin calculation as per citizen, it isn't accurate because one of the concern …
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Re: What Bitcoin price is too high?

Bitcoin Price Down, but Gaining Popularity in UK Following Brexit

UK Brexit Flags

The Brexit vote has come and gone, and while anti-Brexit petitions have arisen among the turmoil, many U.K. residents who have their savings stored in British pounds recently woke up to discover themselves eight percent poorer than what they’re used to.


Also read: Bitcoin and Brexit: Did the Great UK Debate Move the Price?


Bitcoin Price Is Falling, Still Doing Much Better Than the Pound


The British Pound has fallen in value since the Brexit vote took place; it now stands at the lowest it has been since 1985.


Unfortunately, bitcoin’s rise is also witnessing a temporary halt. Since our previous price piece, which saw the digital currency hovering at around the $ 655 range, the price has dropped by an additional $ 10, and bitcoin now stands at roughly $ 645 at press time.


But while the fate of the Pound is still up for grabs, bitcoin’s future is still gleaming with positivity.


As Ashvin Bachireddy of Geodesic Capital explains:


“Bitcoin is effectively becoming digital gold… You can continue to see further validation of bitcoin as something detached from a centralized government that allows people who work to preserve wealth in a secure way.”



Jesse Powell, head of San Francisco-based digital exchange Kraken, seems to agree. Powell mentions that he’s seen bitcoin trading on his platform double within 24 hours of the Brexit vote, and since June 10, bitcoin to euro trading has been at an all-time high.


Many may have lost faith in the Pound, but bitcoin is continuing to gain strength and traction in the financial markets.


Powell says:


“There’s an advantage to having a currency that isn’t political, isn’t tied to a government and not subject to these kinds of things happening… It’s purely governed by math.”



Despite his praise of bitcoin, Powell is warning investors not to go “digi-crazy.” He warns against disregarding the Pound and related fiat currencies fully, and says that turning in all your dough for bitcoin isn’t the best idea:


“I wouldn’t tell anybody to put their life savings into bitcoin because that could just as easily be wiped out… Think about it in terms of diversifying your portfolio. If you have investments in gold or an index, maybe think about bitcoin or cryptocurrency as an asset class you want to have some money in.”



Other sources agree. As one analyst recently posted:


“The Bitcoin price chart remains in slumping mode, and continuing decline is inevitable, yet, interspersed with crosscurrents. Best to sit out until a clear signal becomes evident in the charts… Speculators should consider keeping funds allocation at 40:60 BTC vs. fiat until we see a confirmation of a return to uptrend.”



Will bitcoin soon reach beyond $ 700 again? Post your thoughts and comments below!



Images courtesy of Shutterstock, Bitcoinist.net.


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Re: What do you think of Genesis Mining?

Although , there are a lot of scam sites under the name of cloud mining , but I think this site is different , because they have a proof of mining , and they have also famous partners support them , I think this company really mine Bitcoin and other cr…
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Re: What do you think of Genesis Mining?

Tuesday, June 28, 2016

Re: $13,000 bitcoins by the end of 2016? $120,000 by 2018? (golden ratio fractals)

Quote from: americanpegasus on Today at 04:56:25 AM

I posted this chart, admittedly not my own, in October of last year.  And for the past 8 months it has been the most eerily accurate price predictor of Bitcoin [i…

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Re: $13,000 bitcoins by the end of 2016? $120,000 by 2018? (golden ratio fractals)

Re: Get free Bitcoin for completing this Bitcoin casino survey

Quote from: Superhitech on Today at 04:39:41 AM


Quote from: katerniko1 on June 16, 2016, 04:36:35 PM

even tho ive made this survey and did all what was asked i didnt get paid.
becaus…


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Re: Are you holding your bitcoin for a price increase?

Quote from: boyptc on Today at 01:40:54 AM


Quote from: QuestionAuthority on June 28, 2016, 10:56:27 PM

Nah, Walmart takes bitcoins now. Since it's so easy to spend them, I just buy s…


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Re: Are you holding your bitcoin for a price increase?

Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Yes you should buy a house when bitcoin price goes very high,, owning a house makes you to go full time in bitcoin.
And it will result to a higher profit.. cause you can manage your time when you have your own house,
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Re: If Bitcoin goes up very high should i buy a house?

Re: Lose all your capital fast, with MatTheCat and his TA 101A!

Quote from: r0ach on Today at 01:00:26 AM


Quote from: MatTheCat on Today at 12:52:07 AM

Am thinking that Bitcoin can clamber up another $ 20-$ 30 bucks going forward, but if it d…


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Re: Lose all your capital fast, with MatTheCat and his TA 101A!

How easy is it to shut down Bitcoin?

As Bitcoin needs the mining farms to maintain transactions, how easy is it to shutdown?


Lets take China as an example, since they are the major farms…


If the Government decides or is pressured to shut down the mining farms, which are just a few in nu…
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How easy is it to shut down Bitcoin?

Re: The future of Bitcoin

Quote from: ronaldo40 on June 03, 2016, 11:58:19 AM


Quote from: trinaldao on June 03, 2016, 09:26:43 AM

maybe in future bitcoin like other currency, each shope will accept it, the goverment …


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Re: The future of Bitcoin

Re: Ethereum down, Bitcoin up

Eth is fucked beyond repair, wait if/until the dao money is returned and a lot of people will take it and run to the nearest exchange to buy btc…..
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Re: Ethereum down, Bitcoin up

Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years?

Quote from: Apened on Today at 02:17:30 PM


Quote from: Galiatram on Today at 07:50:14 AM

if you want to retire in 20 years you need allot of bitcoins if the bitcoin value will st…


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Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years?

Re: [Auction]Crypto Imperator Bitcoin Halving Commemorative Coin Numbers #1 to #10

Quote from: gogodr on Today at 06:38:38 PM

If any of the winners dont come through I will buy that coin at the winning bid.

All winners have paid really quickly :/


Looks like gold halving coins are having …
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Re: [ANN] OMETEOTL BITCOIN serie 2 ! pre-reservations

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Re: Halving is a profitable???

Quote from: andromeda876 on Today at 05:12:26 PM

Yes halcing time is a profitable  I have no doubt about it  . if i have big money i really wanted to investment to bitcoin for the halving time i say last 15 days bi…

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Re: Halving is a profitable???

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Re: If bitcoin rose to $1M, what you do?

I would buy personal mathematics tuition for all the morons on here who don't believe the price will ever go over a few hundred 'because people can't buy a whole coin'.


I'd throw in some personal finance education and suicide prevention too.
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Re: If bitcoin rose to $1M, what you do?

Re: Can bitcoin adopt to this idea?

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Re: Can bitcoin adopt to this idea?

Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

Good news indeed. So time for a dump!
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Re: Bitcoin in the year 2100

Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on Today at 11:23:00 AM

Unless you are 1 year old now and have chances to be alive although very old in the year 2100 why bothering of thinking what will happen to bitcoin in that distant…

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Re: Bitcoin in the year 2100

[2016-06-28] Ernst and Young auctions off 24,518 bitcoins in Australia

Ernst and Young auctions off 24,518 bitcoins in Australia
The financial services firm has announced it successfully sold $ 16 mln worth of confiscated cryptocurrency. It is claimed to be the first bitcoin auction in Australia and the second in th…
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[2016-06-28] Ernst and Young auctions off 24,518 bitcoins in Australia

Re: How many bitcoins can you afford losing?

For now im carefully using my bitcoin because i cant lose bitcoins now. The halving is near and i dont afford to lose my bitcoins now.
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Re: How many bitcoins can you afford losing?

Re: Türkiye'de Geçen Bitcoin Debit Card Var Mı?

Quote from: designerusa on June 26, 2016, 08:27:52 AM


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Re: Türkiye'de Geçen Bitcoin Debit Card Var Mı?

Monday, June 27, 2016

Re: financing a 'Community Miner' project; Are You In?

I lost my ass 3 times by "pitching in",so nope.You get the product ready to ship & then I will buy  Wink


The network hashrate is NOT coming down…ASICs are NOT for sale,so you'll never get enough chips to recoup your investment  Sad


Mining bitcoin at hom…
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Re: financing a 'Community Miner' project; Are You In?

Re: What should I do to get bitcoins?

Quote from: Shockrz on May 10, 2016, 08:30:25 PM

Hello I have spent my bitcoins on a cloud mining website, and i am wondering if there is anything i can do to earn bitcoin while i wait for that, just keep in mind the fo…

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Re: What should I do to get bitcoins?

Re: 2016 Bitcoin Predictions

Quote from: bitcoinhopper on Today at 02:28:18 AM

My prediction for the bitcoin is pretty good, I think the bitcoin is gonna rise in worth and also in users.
It will get a huge boost by the halving and this will al…

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Re: 2016 Bitcoin Predictions

Re: RE-OPENED! MyBitMine.co | New Type Of Faucet | Get Bitcoin From Playing

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Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game

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Statistics are fun. Will check it out, thanks for the tip!

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Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why?

Yes I'm buying bitcoins right now because of the fact that the bitcoin has a great worth and its worth buying it with this nice future.
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Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why?

Re: CloudBet scamming me of 70 BTC

well usually bitcoin sites don't process such withdrawals fast , many stories like yours happened and all the sites said that they need to review your account to make sure that you didn't cheat , and the results were positive in most cases
but what's w…
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Re: bitcoin continuous rising?

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This week bitcoin will continue rise up. After halving may be value of bitcoin decrease.  i…


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Re: bitcoin continuous rising?

Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment?

a used it as both both since hashocean i cant believe any more to the BTC
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Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment?

Re: Bitcoin Doubler Version 2 Released

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Re: How is bitcoin most important to you?

It is most important to me as a long term investment. It could well be my only retirement option in the future, as sad as that sounds.
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Re: How is bitcoin most important to you?

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Re: Will Bitcoin casinos be more popular than regular online casinos by 2020?

no. online gambling is a massive, massive industry. for that to happen bitcoin itself would have to be as big as usd or something. i think what it does do is bring in new customers who otherwise wouldn't be gambling and allows people in places where le…
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Re: Will Bitcoin casinos be more popular than regular online casinos by 2020?

Re: HASHOCEAN ONLINE BITCOIN CLOUD MINING, IS IT GONE FOREVER?

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Understanding the Lightning Network, Part 3: Completing the Puzzle and Closing the Channel

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The Lightning Network is probably the most highly anticipated technological innovation that will be deployed on top of Bitcoin. The payment layer, first proposed by Joseph Poon and Tadge Dryja about a year ago, promises to support a virtually unlimited number of off-chain transactions among users, at nearly no cost – while leveraging the security offered by Bitcoin.


At least three companies – Poon and Dryja’s Lightning, Blockstream and Blockchain – are currently working on implementations of the technology. But few outside this small technological frontline fully grasp how the “future of micropayments” is set to boost Bitcoin’s capabilities.


In this three-part series, Bitcoin Magazine lays out the basic building blocks of the Lightning Network, and shows how they fit together to realize this upcoming protocol layer.


The first part of this series covered basic building blocks, and explained how these are used to establish bidirectional payment channels. The second part explained how a network is formed, and how Hash Timelock Contracts (HTLCs) link different channels in the network together. This third and final part of the series explains how HTLCs are placed inside bidirectional payment channels to ensure transactions can occur fully off-chain.


The Lightning Network


So far, Alice and Bob opened a bidirectional payment channel, which they both funded with five bitcoins. They’ve made two transactions back and forth, and at the current channel state, both Alice and Bob can claim five bitcoins for themselves by “dropping the channel” on the blockchain.


Now, they want to include an HTLC in the channel. This is to ensure that if Carol claims a bitcoin from Bob in return for her value, Bob is guaranteed a bitcoin from Alice in return.


Like the previous step, Alice and Bob start by creating a new commitment transaction each. In many ways, these commitment transactions are very similar to previous commitment transactions. They include a normal output, and an output to a funky multisig-address with a CSV (CheckSequenceVerify)-timelock and a special hash-lock. Likewise, as in the previous step, Alice and Bob exchange their old secrets, to effectively invalidate the old channel. And, once exchanged, both Alice and Bob can sign their halves of the commitment transactions and potentially drop them on the blockchain at any time.


All familiar territory. Except for one change. Both Alice’s and Bob’s commitment transactions now include one new output, worth one bitcoin. (This makes the balance 4-5-1; four for Alice, five for Bob, one for the new output.)


This new output is essentially the HTLC. And it’s even funkier than all other outputs so far, because there are three ways to unlock it.


First, the new output (in both Alice’s and Bob’s commitment transactions) releases the bitcoin on condition that Bob’s signature and the value is included in the subsequent transaction. As such, regardless of whether Alice or Bob signs and broadcasts the commitment transaction, only Bob can unlock this output – if he includes the value. But there is one small difference between the two commitment transactions: if Bob drops the channel, there is a CSV-timelock involved. He will need to wait 1,000 blocks. (If Alice drops the channel he can claim this bitcoin immediately.)


The reason Bob has to wait 1,000 blocks if he drops the channel is very similar to what we’ve seen before: It allows Alice to take this bitcoin in case Bob ever tries to sign and broadcast an old channel state. That’s where the second way to unlock the output comes in. Alice can “steal” the funds if she provides Bob’s (newest) secret. 


Two can play this game: If Alice ever tries to cheat and broadcast this channel when it’s already outdated, Bob can claim this bitcoin using Alice’s secret. (He wouldn’t even need to provide the value.)


And third, as with any other HTLC, both commitment transactions also include the usual CLTV time-out fall-back for Alice. If Bob does notinclude the value in – say – two weeks (for instance because he didn’t get it from Carol), Alice can claim her bitcoin back. Again, whether Alice or Bob drops the channel doesn’t matter for this option.


So where did all this get us?


Both Alice and Bob hold a half-valid commitment transaction. If Alice drops her commitment transaction on the blockchain, she immediately sends five bitcoins to Bob. Additionally, she can wait for 1,000 blocks, and claim four bitcoins for herself. Plus, Bob has two weeks to provide the value, and claim the bitcoin in “HTLC output.” (If he doesn’t provide the value in two weeks, Alice can claim this bitcoin back.)


Bob, meanwhile, can drop his commitment transaction at any time as well, and immediately send four bitcoins to Alice. Then, he’d have wait 1,000 blocks to claim five more bitcoins from one address, and another bitcoin from the HTLC output if he provides the value. (If he doesn’t provide the value in two weeks, Alice can reclaim it.)


And of course, if either Alice or Bob tries to cheat at any point in the future, and sign and broadcast this channel when it’s outdated, both can completely block the other, and steal all bitcoins in the channel.


Payment Channel

Settling the Status


At this point, Bob is guaranteed to receive a bitcoin in exchange for the value (assuming he has it). All he has to do is sign and broadcast the commitment transaction he got from Alice, include the value in a subsequent transaction, and sign and broadcast that as well.


Alice knows this. There is no way she can cheat Bob out of his bitcoin – not even if she found out what the value is through some other means.


As such, the two might as well just “settle” outside of the channel. Bob can simply give the value to Alice, and Alice can agree to update the channel status to the more normal state without the HTLC and the time-out deadline.


Assuming both parties want to keep the channel open, that’s what they would naturally do: it’s less of a hassle than having to drop the channel on the blockchain.


Payment Channel

Closing the Channel


And finally, here’s the real power of the Lightning Network:


Almost everything described in these three articles will typically never need to hit the Bitcoin blockchain at all.


If both Alice and Bob want to close the channel “peacefully” they can simply create a transaction from the original opening transaction to override everything that happened since the opening transaction. From this closing transaction, they send themselves their fair share of the channel, as represented by the most recent channel state.


Concretely, this means that if Alice wants to close the channel, she can at this point simply create a transaction paying herself four bitcoins and Bob six, and ask Bob to sign and broadcast the transaction. Since there is no reason for him not to, he will probably cooperate and close the channel.


In the end, only two transactions will have been broadcast over the Bitcoin network and included in a block: the opening and the closing transactions. That will hold true even if Alice and Bob transact a million times in between, therefore unloading a huge burden away from the blockchain.


Payment Channel

Thanks to Rusty Russell and Joseph Poon for information and added feedback.


The post Understanding the Lightning Network, Part 3: Completing the Puzzle and Closing the Channel appeared first on Bitcoin Magazine.




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Understanding the Lightning Network, Part 3: Completing the Puzzle and Closing the Channel

Understanding the Lightning Network, Part 3: Completing the Puzzle and Closing the Channel

The Lightning Network is probably the most highly anticipated technological innovation that will be deployed on top of Bitcoin. The payment layer, first proposed by Joseph Poon and Tadge Dryja about a year ago, promises to support a virtually unlimited number of off-chain transactions among users, at nearly no cost – while leveraging the security offered by Bitcoin.


At least three companies – Poon and Dryja’s Lightning, Blockstream and Blockchain – are currently working on implementations of the technology. But few outside this small technological frontline fully grasp how the “future of micropayments” is set to boost Bitcoin’s capabilities.


In this three-part series, Bitcoin Magazine lays out the basic building blocks of the Lightning Network, and shows how they fit together to realize this upcoming protocol layer.


The first part of this series covered basic building blocks, and explained how these are used to establish bidirectional payment channels. The second part explained how a network is formed, and how Hash Timelock Contracts (HTLCs) link different channels in the network together. This third and final part of the series explains how HTLCs are placed inside bidirectional payment channels to ensure transactions can occur fully off-chain.


The Lightning Network


So far, Alice and Bob opened a bidirectional payment channel, which they both funded with five bitcoins. They’ve made two transactions back and forth, and at the current channel state, both Alice and Bob can claim five bitcoins for themselves by “dropping the channel” on the blockchain.


Now, they want to include an HTLC in the channel. This is to ensure that if Carol claims a bitcoin from Bob in return for her value, Bob is guaranteed a bitcoin from Alice in return.


Like the previous step, Alice and Bob start by creating a new commitment transaction each. In many ways, these commitment transactions are very similar to previous commitment transactions. They include a normal output, and an output to a funky multisig-address with a CSV (CheckSequenceVerify)-timelock and a special hash-lock. Likewise, as in the previous step, Alice and Bob exchange their old secrets, to effectively invalidate the old channel. And, once exchanged, both Alice and Bob can sign their halves of the commitment transactions and potentially drop them on the blockchain at any time.


All familiar territory. Except for one change. Both Alice’s and Bob’s commitment transactions now include one new output, worth one bitcoin. (This makes the balance 4-5-1; four for Alice, five for Bob, one for the new output.)


This new output is essentially the HTLC. And it’s even funkier than all other outputs so far, because there are three ways to unlock it.


First, the new output (in both Alice’s and Bob’s commitment transactions) releases the bitcoin on condition that Bob’s signature and the value is included in the subsequent transaction. As such, regardless of whether Alice or Bob signs and broadcasts the commitment transaction, only Bob can unlock this output – if he includes the value. But there is one small difference between the two commitment transactions: if Bob drops the channel, there is a CSV-timelock involved. He will need to wait 1,000 blocks. (If Alice drops the channel he can claim this bitcoin immediately.)


The reason Bob has to wait 1,000 blocks if he drops the channel is very similar to what we’ve seen before: It allows Alice to take this bitcoin in case Bob ever tries to sign and broadcast an old channel state. That’s where the second way to unlock the output comes in. Alice can “steal” the funds if she provides Bob’s (newest) secret. 


Two can play this game: If Alice ever tries to cheat and broadcast this channel when it’s already outdated, Bob can claim this bitcoin using Alice’s secret. (He wouldn’t even need to provide the value.)


And third, as with any other HTLC, both commitment transactions also include the usual CLTV time-out fall-back for Alice. If Bob does notinclude the value in – say – two weeks (for instance because he didn’t get it from Carol), Alice can claim her bitcoin back. Again, whether Alice or Bob drops the channel doesn’t matter for this option.


So where did all this get us?


Both Alice and Bob hold a half-valid commitment transaction. If Alice drops her commitment transaction on the blockchain, she immediately sends five bitcoins to Bob. Additionally, she can wait for 1,000 blocks, and claim four bitcoins for herself. Plus, Bob has two weeks to provide the value, and claim the bitcoin in “HTLC output.” (If he doesn’t provide the value in two weeks, Alice can claim this bitcoin back.)


Bob, meanwhile, can drop his commitment transaction at any time as well, and immediately send four bitcoins to Alice. Then, he’d have wait 1,000 blocks to claim five more bitcoins from one address, and another bitcoin from the HTLC output if he provides the value. (If he doesn’t provide the value in two weeks, Alice can reclaim it.)


And of course, if either Alice or Bob tries to cheat at any point in the future, and sign and broadcast this channel when it’s outdated, both can completely block the other, and steal all bitcoins in the channel.


Payment Channel

Settling the Status


At this point, Bob is guaranteed to receive a bitcoin in exchange for the value (assuming he has it). All he has to do is sign and broadcast the commitment transaction he got from Alice, include the value in a subsequent transaction, and sign and broadcast that as well.


Alice knows this. There is no way she can cheat Bob out of his bitcoin – not even if she found out what the value is through some other means.


As such, the two might as well just “settle” outside of the channel. Bob can simply give the value to Alice, and Alice can agree to update the channel status to the more normal state without the HTLC and the time-out deadline.


Assuming both parties want to keep the channel open, that’s what they would naturally do: it’s less of a hassle than having to drop the channel on the blockchain.


Payment Channel

Closing the Channel


And finally, here’s the real power of the Lightning Network:


Almost everything described in these three articles will typically never need to hit the Bitcoin blockchain at all.


If both Alice and Bob want to close the channel “peacefully” they can simply create a transaction from the original opening transaction to override everything that happened since the opening transaction. From this closing transaction, they send themselves their fair share of the channel, as represented by the most recent channel state.


Concretely, this means that if Alice wants to close the channel, she can at this point simply create a transaction paying herself four bitcoins and Bob six, and ask Bob to sign and broadcast the transaction. Since there is no reason for him not to, he will probably cooperate and close the channel.


In the end, only two transactions will have been broadcast over the Bitcoin network and included in a block: the opening and the closing transactions. That will hold true even if Alice and Bob transact a million times in between, therefore unloading a huge burden away from the blockchain.


Payment Channel

Thanks to Rusty Russell and Joseph Poon for information and added feedback.


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Understanding the Lightning Network, Part 3: Completing the Puzzle and Closing the Channel